Group sweat

I was coming off a 7 hour day at the tables and definately not on my A-game. During the sweat I told Martin and Jason how i would probably shut down if we werent sweating. The reason I am writing this isnt because I spewed a shit ton of chips its simply because i think this is many gridners weakness. We plan a session and things start off crap and we dont quit. If you cant identify mini tilt and quit or correct it you are going to have some very spewy sessions imo. Enough preaching, read the hands bitches!

Hand 1: Thin value FTW. Villain in the hand was running some real nitty TAG numbers like 18/15/1 at the time. When he c/c the turn his hand looks like a weak made hand like a PP or T9 which we are ahead of most the time. Granted he had a low AF we can assume all OP DB and possibly even AXcc. On the river we missed value by not betting is the group consensus. Basically our range is nuts or northing here and we should get looked up much lighter then often based on this.


Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com Hand History Converter

BB: $234
UTG: $179.60
MP: $369.25
CO: $214.95
Hero (BTN): $274.55
SB: $198

Pre-Flop: Jc Jh dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG raises to $7, 2 folds, Hero calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($17) 7d 9h 2c (2 Players)
UTG bets $14, Hero calls $14

Turn: ($45) 7c (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $28, UTG calls $28

River: ($101) Qs (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Results: $101 Pot ($3 Rake)
UTG showed As Ad (two pair, Aces and Sevens) and WON $98 (+$49 NET)
Hero showed Jc Jh (two pair, Jacks and Sevens) and LOST (-$49 NET)

Hand 2: Thin value FTW take two. This guy was a spew tard who had shown a propensity to c/c with all sort of shite. Checking the turn back is horrible in our opinion. We lose so much value from all his weaker made hands/draws and we allow way to many hands that could improve his holding peel off. When he fires the river weak we called based on prior reads where he bluffed the river small.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com Hand History Converter

BTN: $200
SB: $198
BB: $396.40
UTG: $214.50
Hero (MP): $235.55
CO: $200

Pre-Flop: 7d 7h dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $9, 4 folds, UTG calls $7

Flop: ($21) 9h 6h 9s (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $15, UTG calls $15

Turn: ($51) Td (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $27, UTG calls $27

River: ($105) 5s (2 Players)
UTG bets $25, Hero calls $25

Results: $155 Pot ($3 Rake)
UTG showed Qc Qs (two pair, Queens and Nines) and WON $152 (+$76 NET)
Hero mucked 7d 7h 7d 7h (two pair, Nines and Sevens) and LOST (-$76 NET)

Hand 3: If you bet it you will know. Thin value FTW take three. OK so really this is thin value/where am I. Villain is 19/16/3. The group felt the turn was a spot where we are betting for value as a larger part of his range could peel here and if raised we can fold without question. After heated debate and further analysis I feel the turn is a check. It seems imo that his weak holdings cant stand a DB but they may bluff the river or look us up lighter because we checked it back on the turn. Please comment on this hand.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com Hand History Converter

BB: $257.15
UTG: $247.40
MP: $62.60
CO: $307.35
Hero (BTN): $200
SB: $197

Pre-Flop: 9d Kc dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, Hero raises to $7, SB folds, BB calls $5

Flop: ($15) 6d 9h Tc (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12

Turn: ($39) 3c (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $26, BB raises to $52, Hero folds

Results: $91 Pot ($3 Rake)
BB mucked and WON $88 (+$43 NET)

Hand 4: Thin value? Sorry not an option. This was early on and though we had started the session LAG there is no value in 4 betting as best case scenario is a flip. Also with position we can take the flop and play poker which is fun. Flop isnt horrible and we are obligated to call. On the turn betting is horrible as we get value from nothing we are ahead of, villains range to c/c or crai is AQ, QQ+. By the river it is quite obvious we are best but doubtful we can extract value from worse. A bet here might be ok but the info gained by seeing his whole cards rather then betting and having him fold is more valuable i believe.

FullTiltPoker Game #5398780128: Table Bonanza (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:14:00 ET - 2008/02/25
Seat 1: sockervadd ($225.40)
Seat 2: DinoDino76 ($183.60)
Seat 3: JxMxC ($359.95)
Seat 4: adonis999 ($245.15)
Seat 5: Life_Heater ($200)
Seat 6: Spear1 ($203.10)
Spear1 posts the small blind of $1
sockervadd posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Life_Heater [Js Jh]
DinoDino76 folds
JxMxC folds
adonis999 folds
Life_Heater raises to $7
Spear1 raises to $26
sockervadd folds
Life_Heater calls $19
*** FLOP *** [3d Qh 7h]
Spear1 bets $38
Life_Heater has 15 seconds left to act
Life_Heater calls $38
*** TURN *** [3d Qh 7h] [9d]
Spear1 checks
Life_Heater has 15 seconds left to act
Life_Heater checks
*** RIVER *** [3d Qh 7h 9d] [7c]
Spear1 checks
Life_Heater has 15 seconds left to act
Life_Heater has requested TIME
Life_Heater checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Spear1 shows [8c 8h] two pair, Eights and Sevens
Life_Heater shows [Js Jh] two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Life_Heater wins the pot ($127) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $130 Rake $3
Board: [3d Qh 7h 9d 7c]
Seat 1: sockervadd (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: DinoDino76 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: JxMxC didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: adonis999 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Life_Heater (button) showed [Js Jh] and won ($127) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Seat 6: Spear1 (small blind) showed [8c 8h] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sevens